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Origin Of "Twinkle"?
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Matthew Lybanon
2008-05-12 16:11:07 UTC
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Does anyone know why the ballroom dance figure (Waltz, Foxtrot) known as
"Twinkle" has that name? An instructor I know who is usually very
knowledgeable about dance history and technique admitted last night that
he has no idea. Does anyone on this newsgroup have any idea (a pointer
to a reference would be especially good)?
Matthew Lybanon
2008-05-15 13:44:54 UTC
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Post by Matthew Lybanon
Does anyone know why the ballroom dance figure (Waltz, Foxtrot) known as
"Twinkle" has that name? An instructor I know who is usually very
knowledgeable about dance history and technique admitted last night that
he has no idea. Does anyone on this newsgroup have any idea (a pointer
to a reference would be especially good)?
I didn't realize this was such a hard question. I've tried several
Google searches with no results, plus I've looked at several "dance
history" sites I have bookmarked without finding an answer. My guess
(ONLY a guess) is that the name comes from the way the body positions
change during the pattern. Does anybody have any other guesses?
Richard Maurer
2008-05-15 15:46:42 UTC
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Matthew Lybanon wrote:
Does anyone know why the ballroom dance figure
(Waltz, Foxtrot) known as "Twinkle" has that name?


My take is that the term has drifted over the years,
but it started from a dance called The Twinkle,
described here in a 1914 dance book.

This change of feet is called the Twinkle, because it
is done in the twinkling of an eye, so to speak.

The apparent speed is only relative, since the previous steps
take 3 beats, and then 2 beats.

That is not the modern figure, but later in the same dance there
is a figure where the man and woman change relative positions.
The change is not the same as the modern ballroom basic twinkle,
but it is a change and has the characteristic swing around
on one foot at the end. The rest is history.

Step Three: Lady takes position by the side of
the gentleman, her right arm akimbo, right hand
clasping gentleman's right, and her left arm extended
to clasp gentleman's left.

Both start with left foot and balance forward and back
three times. On the third balance backward, twinkle as
described before, which brings the right foot forward.
One step forward on the right foot, a second on the left,
and a third on the right foot. Then swing half way
around on right toe, which brings the gentleman with
the right foot forward and the lady on the left side
of the gentleman.


The book is at the American Ballroom Collection at the
Library of Congress:
The tango and other up-to-date dances; a practical
guide to all the latest dances, tango, one step,
innovation, hesitation, etc., described step by step
by J. S. Hopkins 1914

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Matthew Lybanon
2008-05-15 23:48:11 UTC
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Does anyone know why the ballroom dance figure
(Waltz, Foxtrot) known as "Twinkle" has that name?
My take is that the term has drifted over the years,
but it started from a dance called The Twinkle,
described here in a 1914 dance book.
This change of feet is called the Twinkle, because it
is done in the twinkling of an eye, so to speak.
The apparent speed is only relative, since the previous steps
take 3 beats, and then 2 beats.
That is not the modern figure, but later in the same dance there
is a figure where the man and woman change relative positions.
The change is not the same as the modern ballroom basic twinkle,
but it is a change and has the characteristic swing around
on one foot at the end. The rest is history.
Step Three: Lady takes position by the side of
the gentleman, her right arm akimbo, right hand
clasping gentleman's right, and her left arm extended
to clasp gentleman's left.
Both start with left foot and balance forward and back
three times. On the third balance backward, twinkle as
described before, which brings the right foot forward.
One step forward on the right foot, a second on the left,
and a third on the right foot. Then swing half way
around on right toe, which brings the gentleman with
the right foot forward and the lady on the left side
of the gentleman.
The book is at the American Ballroom Collection at the
The tango and other up-to-date dances; a practical
guide to all the latest dances, tango, one step,
innovation, hesitation, etc., described step by step
by J. S. Hopkins 1914
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Richard Maurer To reply, remove half
Sunnyvale, California of a homonym of a synonym for also.
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Thanks for that information. I know that the origins of some of these
things are murky. (One example: The standard story is that the name
"Foxtrot" derives from the dance that Harry Fox [his stage name, not his
real name] did [not invented, but made popular] in 1911 or 1912,
involving "trotting steps." That was "Fox's Trot." But someone
unearthed a song published in 1905 that has the word "Foxtrot" in its
title.)

A question that might be easier to answer is: Who introduced the
Twinkle in more or less its modern form into their syllabus? Was it
Arthur Murray, or Fred Astaire, or someone (some studio) else?
s***@yahoo.com
2008-05-18 12:08:52 UTC
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Post by Matthew Lybanon
Thanks for that information. I know that the origins of some of these
things are murky. (One example: The standard story is that the name
"Foxtrot" derives from the dance that Harry Fox [his stage name, not his
real name] did [not invented, but made popular] in 1911 or 1912,
involving "trotting steps." That was "Fox's Trot." But someone
unearthed a song published in 1905 that has the word "Foxtrot" in its
title.)
It's also possible that the name was recycled in the 1910s from a
previous "animal dance" along the lines of the grizzly bear, turkey
trot, etc. The original 1910s foxtrot bore no particular resemblance
to the modern ballroom dance anyway. I did a couple of blog-essays on
it, if you're curious - they can be found at http://www.kickery.com/foxtrot/index.html.
At some point I need to do a couple more to move through the 1920s and
actually connect it to the modern dance.

Susan
www.kickery.com
Richard Maurer
2008-05-16 01:43:10 UTC
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Matthew Lybanon wrote:
Does anyone know why the ballroom dance figure
(Waltz, Foxtrot) known as "Twinkle" has that name?


Upon further review, I want to give the honor to the
first figure in the Twinkle dance in that 1914 book.
This has the advantage of continuity in that the
figure was called "twinkle".

I will leave out the first three beats which were
a balance forward on the right.
The last three beats in for the gentleman were
balancing back on the left for two beats,
then right on the third beat. The woman had the same
steps as both were facing the same direction side by side.

Now only one major change is necessary -- put the couple
in ballroom position, mostly facing with opposing footwork.
The man's left behind becomes a left diagonally behind
the right foot, held for two beats. He then steps forward with
the right in promenade[1]. I think it is more common now
to divide the two beat left into a right and left, which has
the advantage of comfort, but loses the rhythmic intensity
of the third step which inspired the name twinkle.

[1] I can see more similarity between the old twinkle
and the modern ballroom one that I can between the old
promenade and the modern ballroom promenade, which is
only 3% similar to the old one.

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Richard Maurer To reply, remove half
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s***@yahoo.com
2008-05-18 12:03:19 UTC
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Post by Matthew Lybanon
Does anyone know why the ballroom dance figure
(Waltz, Foxtrot) known as "Twinkle" has that name?
Upon further review, I want to give the honor to the
first figure in theTwinkledance in that 1914 book.
This has the advantage of continuity in that the
figure was called "twinkle".
I don't think you can definitively claim that as the original.
Another book from 1914, Dance Mad, gives four separate dances called,
respectively:

The Twinkle (H. Layton Walker)
Twinkle No. 2 (no author given)
Twinkle Hesitation Waltz (T. McDougall)
Twinkle Hesitation (S. Wallace Cortissoz)

In Twinkle No. 2, there is a note that:

"The Twinkle is danced different ways. However, the essential part of
the dance is the 'Catch Step', which is the third measure, described
below, being the 'Hop on R, circle L, around back and down, etc.' "

This suggests to me that all five authors were describing an existing
figure.

Susan
http://www.kickery.com/
s***@yahoo.com
2008-05-18 12:10:49 UTC
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I don't think you can definitively claim that as the original.
Another book from 1914, Dance Mad, gives four separate dances called,
The Twinkle (H. Layton Walker)
Twinkle No. 2 (no author given)
Twinkle Hesitation Waltz (T. McDougall)
Twinkle Hesitation (S. Wallace Cortissoz)
"The Twinkle is danced different ways. However, the essential part of
the dance is the 'Catch Step', which is the third measure, described
below, being the 'Hop on R, circle L, around back and down, etc.' "
This suggests to me that all five authors were describing an existing
figure.
I forgot to mention: all four of the versions in DM were danced "in
ballroom position, mostly facing with opposing footwork."

Susan
www.kickery.com
Matthew Lybanon
2008-05-18 13:55:33 UTC
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I don't think you can definitively claim that as the original.
Another book from 1914, Dance Mad, gives four separate dances called,
The Twinkle (H. Layton Walker)
Twinkle No. 2 (no author given)
Twinkle Hesitation Waltz (T. McDougall)
Twinkle Hesitation (S. Wallace Cortissoz)
"The Twinkle is danced different ways. However, the essential part of
the dance is the 'Catch Step', which is the third measure, described
below, being the 'Hop on R, circle L, around back and down, etc.' "
This suggests to me that all five authors were describing an existing
figure.
I forgot to mention: all four of the versions in DM were danced "in
ballroom position, mostly facing with opposing footwork."
Susan
www.kickery.com
Thanks to all who contributed information. I suspect that this is
another of those cases in which it may not be possible to find THE
origin unambiguously. Does anyone now who (which studio, probably)
introduced the modern form of the Twinkle into their syllabus?

There is no single syllabus for American style dancing as there is for
International (some minor differences between ISTD and IDTA, maybe), but
all studios and independent instructors now seem to teach the same
figure as THE Twinkle.

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